2009-01-15

Tiny baby clojure steps

Yesterday I started actually trying to do something with Clojure. Here are my very, very first impressions of what it is like to actually get your feet wet, or your fingers dirty or whatever. This can probably all be resumed with: everything is much more difficult if you don't have any experience with Java. Like me.

This is of course assuming that your system is working correctly. I only finally ended up getting slime, swank and clojure all working together correctly. It isn't that hard, or at least it doesn't seem like it once you see how things fit together. Just a couple of variables for swank, your .jars in a good spot and you are ready to go. It took me a while to realize that of course. And I made stupid mistakes like not compiling clojure-contrib yet expecting it to work. Stupid stupid mistakes.

My initial task was to try to read a file line-by-line. A very Perl-ish thing to do I guess, but it seemed to be a reasonable thing to do. Also, in the initial version of my little project (more about that later), everything started with a config file full of URLs that I was trying to read with bash.

So how do you read a file line by line in Clojure?

Well, here is what I have right now. It works.

(use '[clojure.contrib.duck-streams :only (reader)]) (with-open [r (reader "/home/joseph/localrss/rss_urls")] (doseq [line (line-seq r)] (println line)))

What is strange is that Java is always close by. Just for reading a file, you need Java objects. Here "duck-streams" are a wrapper around some Java stream things. And I had to bring the clojure-contrib .jar into my configuration for this to work. This is just something to get used to, I suppose, and probably feels perfectly natural for Java programmers.

The same seems to go for string functions. The official docs just say :

Clojure strings are Java Strings. See also Printing. user=> (map (fn [x] (.toUpperCase x)) (.split "Dasher Dancer Prancer" " ")) ("DASHER" "DANCER" "PRANCER")
Those
.toUpperCase
and
.split
s look suspiciously like macros calling Java functions, so it looks like I'll be getting chummy with those soon too.

Interestingly, I haven't seen anything about strings being vectors or sequences of some kind, as in Common Lisp. I guess all of that gets thrown away once you beat into your n00b brain that "Clojure strings are Java strings".

2 comments:

Unknown said...

You may want to try looking at some of the screencasts, they were the most helpful thing for me in learning about sequences, java interop, and various other things. They can be found here http://clojure.blip.tv/

skillet-thief said...

Thanks vogelrn. I will try that. I feel as though there are several things that I just need to "get" so that everything will click into place.